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Welcome to Powerful Business Strategies, where you will find out
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that everything you have ever learned about growing your business
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is wrong. Finally, a show where you'll learn the right
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way to grow your business by learning business and financial
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strategies that your competition isn't doing. And now here is
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your host. Resident of Next Step CFO Michael Barbarita and
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joining Michael for today's show as an executive moderator is
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chooky obia.
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Well, here's my best the tet and imitation. Yes, we
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believe that gratitude is undefeated and growth is about the
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next step. Today, my moderator and co author Chuki Obio
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is traveling and I feel like a car with only
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three wheels, but I will do the best I can.
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Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Michael Baburrita from Next
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Step CFO and Next Step CFO is a fractional CFO
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and strategic implementation firm, and our vision is to ensure
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overwhelmed business owners achieve the time, freedom and consistent profits
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to build a legacy and the life they desire. Our
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mission is dedicated to guiding small business owners to leveraging
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their time, exploding their profits, and build a meaningful legacy.
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This show, Powerful Business Strategies in our book of the
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same name, is a step toward accomplishing that vision and mission.
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And as a disclaimer, Chucky and I are both affiliated
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with a number of different organizations. Chucky currently serves as
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the managing director of business development for Better Price, a
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global business focused law firm. In addition to that, Cheecky
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and I collaborate to moderate business roundtables around the country
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and around the world and document those insights as part
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of our book, Powerful Business Strategies. But please note that
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the views expressed on this show are personal views based
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on our successful experiences. Soday, I'm going to talk about
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risk reversal and how this impact strategy can help business
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owners generate additional profits and revenue for their companies. A
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risk reversal is exactly as it sounds. Instead of the
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client or customer taking on the risk after they purchase
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a product or service, the business owner is going to
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reverse that and the business is going to take on
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all the risk and that puts the customer or client
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in a position where they have nothing to lose. Now,
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a risk reversal is one of the five components that
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makes up compelling offer. And we've done previous shows on
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what those five components are, but I'm going to repeat
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them here. One or more of these five components should
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be utilized in all of your offers. That's scarcity and urgency,
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risk reversal, which we'll talk about more detail today, adding
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more value to your product or service, bundling and packaging,
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and being indifferent to the outcome. And once again, a
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business owner should always look to use one or more
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of these components in their offer. But today we're going
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to talk about risk reversal and more detail and the
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incredible value it brings to a business. And the first
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thing people think about when they hear the word risk
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reversal is they have to assume thek the risk and
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there's going to be some type of loss. So the
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question is are you operating from a position of integrity?
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Meaning the product you sell will you stand behind it?
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The service that you offer, will you stand behind it?
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So the first thing is if you can't stand behind
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your product the service, stop offering it. Why are you
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offering a product to service so that you can't stand
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behind So that that's an inherent beginning. So now that
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we know that the business owner will stand behind their
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product or service, you take that to a whole other
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level and you sit down and figure out what are
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the reasons why people would object to buying your product
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or service? What are the objections and so what the
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risk reversal is is removing those objections. So typically it
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is financial, there's no question about that. But people don't
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want to get bamboozled, they don't want to get burned, right,
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So you're removing that risk by saying, hey, we guarantee
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our product, we guarantee our service so much that we're
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one hundred percent certain about the outcome that that we're
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going to deliver. And if that doesn't happen. Here's your
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safety net. That's what a risk reversal is. So here's
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a question I just got from the audience. My god,
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so quickly, what would you recommend our first actions be
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so we can really manage our time properly and get
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ourselves going on implementing the risk reversal. Well, that's a
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great question. I am going to address that. I mean,
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the first thing, or the first key to risk reversal
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is understanding what is the perceived risk that the customer has.
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And I'm going to give you an example. So one
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of the problems the customer had in the ski industry
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when I was in the ski business, and what their
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perceived risk was as well, is they never really knew
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with one hundred percent certainty if the ski they were
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being sold by some hot shot ski salesperson was really
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the right ski for them. So what we did is
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we implemented what we called a ski guarantee, where you
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we let the customer ski the ski three times. If
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it wasn't right for them, they could take it back
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and would refit them for a brand new pair, and
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they could keep bringing it back until we got it right. So,
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just so you understand, when a pair of skis has
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amounted with ski bindings, and not to mention, when the
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ski gets skied on, it depreciates substantially. So my employees
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and managers thought I was nuts, especially my customer service manager,
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because he thought he was going to have to deal
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with a lot of the outcome of this, and this
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is all part of doing what your competition is doing.
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The reason why I felt my employees and managers were
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wrong is because I knew there were no competitors that
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would do it, and like I said, it's all a
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part of doing what your competition isn't doing. We sold
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eight thousand pair of skis the first year we implemented
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that guarantee. That was a twenty five percent increase from
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the previous year, and only eight came back. The next year,
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we sold eleven thousand pair and only fourteen came back,
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proving once again that when people buy, they just want
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to buy with confidence and know that whatever they're purchasing
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is going to do what they are told it is
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going to do. And by the way, by doing this
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risk reversal, I solved the problem that the customer had,
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which was guaranteeing the skis performance and a good time
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on the slope. So it also served as a position
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of market dominance for my company. And that's all the
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customer wanted. And they wanted to buy a product where
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they could ensure themselves that they would have a good time,
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high performance, and a good time on the slopes. That's it.
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So the first action you need to take is understanding
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what the client's perceived risk is. Now, once again, the
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perception my customer had in the ski business is, how
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do I really know if this ski is going to
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perform the way I expect and the way that I
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am told it will perform. Now, my managers, as I said,
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especially my customer service guy, was on my knees begging
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me not to do this risk reversal because he just
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imagined his entire day dealing with angry people bringing back
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their skis and getting a new pair free. And this
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is the perception that business owners have about risk reversal,
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and really it's completely false. And here's the thing. We've
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studied this and thousands of different industries and thousands of
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different transactions, and only a small percentage of people will
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take you up on your bold offer. So what I
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do with clients who have these guarantees is I usually
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factor in any type of cost of the risk reversal
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into the product costs in the form of what we
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call a reserve that's on the balance sheet, is a liability,
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and when and if there are any actual expenses incurred
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due to the warranty, those costs go against the reserve.
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So we're able to take a monthly amount every month
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and accrue it on your P and L with the
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offset being a liability called warranty. So you can actually
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factor the risk reversal into your costs. And the reason
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why we say that is a risk reversal is a
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no cost strategy. I'm sorry. The reason why we do
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say that a risk reversal is a no cost strategy
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is because your conversion rates end up being so much
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higher and you actually won, and you won big time,
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and it's more than covers much more than any of
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the costs associated with the program. And it's dynamic that
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a lot of business owners unfortunately don't take into account.
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By the way, did anybody do the math on how
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many people took me up on my risk reversal? It
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was eight out of eight thousand and fourteen out of
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eleven thousand, that's one tenth of one percent in the
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first year and twelve tenths of one percent the second year,
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and our sales were up twenty five percent the first
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year and thirty eight percent the second year. Had noticed
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the risk reversal strategy once it gets embedded into the
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fabric of the customer build momentum and generated even more
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sales as time went on and as it was promoted more.
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The thing is this, there's a lot of business owners
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who really don't understand the strategy. They think if they
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offer a guarantee of their product the service, they're going
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to lose money and that people are going to try
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to steal from them, and so they pushed back on
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the risk reversal strategy versus not realizing that they could
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actually calculate exactly what that risk would look like and
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if they need help with that, that's that's one thing
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that I do for my clients. But first of all,
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what I'll do is I'll talk some about some of
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the objections that business owners have to creating a risk
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reversal strategy, and then I'll talk about why they should
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do it anyway. Number One, business owners think it's going
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to increase their cost by offering a guarantee or a
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warranty on their product or service. I mean they feel
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it can increase the cost of doing business because the
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business has to cover the cost for honoring that guarantee
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of warranty, and so if they can it's going to
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increase costs. That's reducing profits. So they get concerned about that.
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You know, hey, I'm going to sell it. I'm going
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to sell enough to Am I going to be able
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to sell enough to cover these costs that are honoring?
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Is the question that the business owner has. And then
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the other thing they have to worry about, or that
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they actually worry about, not that they really have to
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worry about it, is that is there going to be
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some type of administrative burden. And if you recall, it
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was the administrative burden that was the concern of my
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customer service guy at the ski shop. You know, if
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they don't honor this guarantee, customers are going to complain
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and it would leave lead to negative reviews and things
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like that. Well, first of all, you know, you're coming
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from a position of integrity, so you're going to honor
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the guarantee, so it should not lead to negative reviews.
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As a matter of fact, in the case of the
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ski Shop, it led to positive reviews because people thought
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it was just a tremendous warranty that no one else
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was offering. But all those reasons that I give not
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to do it, those are all the reasons why the
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business should have a risk reversal strategy, because understand that
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the risk reversal is what the risk reversal is actually accomplishing.
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The client has an objection in their mind, they're feeling
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uncertain about this purchase. So whenever a business can give
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a consumer a level of certainty and safety, more people
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are going to raise their hand and say yes. So
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that's going to increase your sales because your conversions are
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going to increase more than negating any additional cost of burden.
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Now here's the key. I'm going to ask the question
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once again and expand on it a little bit. The
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question you have to ask yourself again as a business
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owner is do you really stand behind your product or service?
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Are you one hundred percent certain that if someone was
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going to purchase a product or service that they're going
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to be better off than they were before they met you.
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If the answer is no, we already said this, stop
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selling it. But when the answer is yes, that's why
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you should offer that level of guarantee at the beginning.
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Here's the point. If a customer tries comes to you
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with a complaint, aren't you going to make it right?
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Aren't you going to do everything you need to do
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to make the customer happy? So what I'm saying is
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why not offer that up front and take the customer
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risk away, increasing sales and conversions, making your offer more compelling.
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You're going to do it any way. If a customer complains,
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You're going to honor whatever it is that the customer
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is complaining about. Think about that, might as well put
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it in your offer. You're coming from a place of
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integrity already, You're already going to make the customer happy.
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Why not put it in your offer and make the
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offer more compelling to generate more business. And by the way,
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here's the beauty of it all. As I have said
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in the past, the beautiful, beautiful thing about most business strategies,