Nov. 12, 2024

Employee Attraction and Retention and How to Become the Employer of Choice in Your Industry

1 Problem for Many Employers and Business Owners: Employees! We are tackling this number one problem that we hear from business owners across every industry and that is finding and keeping great employees.

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1 Problem for Many Employers and Business Owners: Employees! We are tackling this number one problem that we hear from business owners across every industry and that is finding and keeping great employees.

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Welcome to Powerful Business Strategies, where you will find out

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that everything you have ever learned about growing your business

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is wrong. Finally, a show where you'll learn the right

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way to grow your business by learning business and financial

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strategies that your competition isn't doing. And now here's your host.

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Resident of Next Step CFO Michael Barbarita and joining Michael

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for today's show as an executive moderator is chooky obia.

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Yes, this is shookey, and I believe that gratitude is

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undefeated and growth is about.

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The next step. It is an honor for me to moderate.

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Today's discussion with my good friend Michael.

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Michael, how are you good?

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How are you Chicky? And Chicky? I want to first

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on hunder all of our veterans today and thank them

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for their service. You know, we are the land of

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the free because of the brave, and so a shout

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out to all the brave men and women who have served.

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Absolutely I comprehensively concur with that word of gratitude to

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our veterans and Michael, just a quick disclaimer before we

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get started. So, by the way today's episode, folks, we

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had a record breaking audience in our last episode and

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today's episode it's titled Employee Attraction and Retention and how

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to become the Employer of Choice in your industry. This

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is in hot I demand the nature of today's topic,

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but quick kind of disclaimed. Michael and I are both

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affiliated with a number of different organizations and I currently

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serve as the managing director of business Development for Vetter Price,

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a global business focused law firm. In addition to that,

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it's truly an honor to collaborate with Michael to moderate

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business roundtables coast to coast small business owners medium sized

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business owners to document those insights in how they grow

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and manage their business. And we call this Powerful Business

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Strategies Roundtable.

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We also have a Powerful Business Strategies book.

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But please note that the views expressed in today's show

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our personal views based on experience and successful experiences. To

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be even more specific. Now, my mission as a fearless

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moderator is to ask the right questions to help you,

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the listener, learn the best that the competition isn't doing.

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So without I'll toss it back over to Michael.

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Thank you, Thank you, Cherkey. Well, I got to tell

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you I am fired up for today's show because we're

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tackling head, tackling the elephant in the room, the number

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one problem that I hear from business owners across every industry,

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and that's finding and keeping great employees. And so last

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week I was sitting with a client, let's call him Tom.

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He runs a successful construction company. And Tom looked at

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me with pure frustration and said, Michael, I've tried everything.

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I've raised wages, offered better benefits, but I still can't

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find good people. Is there even any good talent left

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out there? And maybe you're all all the business owners

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out there are feeling the same way. Maybe you've posted

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job after job, conducted interview after interview, only to end

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up hiring someone who leaves after three months, or worse yet,

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maybe you've had to turn down business because you just

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don't have the staff to handle it. Well, I got

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news for you. Everything that, and I mean everything you've

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ever learned about attracting and retaining employees is wrong, and

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I can prove that to you today. Did you know

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that right now in your market, there's probably a competitor

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who has a waiting list of people wanting to work

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for them, same market, same laborpool, completely different results. Today,

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I'm going to show you exactly how they do it.

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And remember how we've talked about using a position of

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market dominance to attract customers. I mean we have, Yeah,

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we have a total show show on that, and we've

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expressed it in a couple of other of our shows. Well,

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what if I told you that that strategy, that same strategy,

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the same exact framework, can be used to become the

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employer of choice in your industry, not just another place

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to work, but the place to work. So over the

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next forty minutes, I'm going to share specific strategies that

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have helped companies transform their businesses from being desperate for

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employees to having their pick of the linen, their pick

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of top talent. And the best part. This works in

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every industry for construction and retail, from professional services to restaurants.

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And I'll show you how a business went from ninety

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percent annual turnover that means they were replacing almost their

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entire staff every year to having ninety two percent retention.

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Think about that. What would that mean for your business?

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No more constant hiring, no more training new people over

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and over, no more turning down business because you're short staff.

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So grab a pen and paper, because I'm about to

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share strategies that will completely change how you think about

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attracting and keeping great employees. And if you're driving, don't

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worry about it. You can cast this episode again on

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our podcast at Powerful Business Strategies dot com. So if

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you're just joining us, we're talking about how to become

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the employer of choice in your industry and is to

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show you exactly how to do it. So let me

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tell you about Tom, Like that construction company owner I

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mentioned earlier. When I first met Tom, he was paying

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three dollars more per hour than his competitors. He offered

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health insurance of four to one, paid vacation all this

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stuff and beyond, and he was still losing people fast

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that they could hire them. So know what, Tom, So

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here's what Tom said. He said to me. He said, Michael,

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I don't get it more. Yeah, I'm paying more than

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anyone else in town. What else can I possibly do?

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I have the benefits? And that right there, I think

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is the first mistake that most business owners make. They

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think it's all about the money. Well, let me share

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something that might shock you. We did a study, and

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there are many many other studies that have been done

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of people who left their jobs in the last year,

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and of course, salary ranked fifth, you know, as the

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list of reasons for leaving, that's fifth place. And here's

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even something more fascinating. When we asked them why they

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chose their new employer, salary ranked even lower. It was sixth.

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So now I can hear some of you out there say,

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you know, come on, Michael, people say it's not about

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the money, but we know it is. Well, let me

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prove it that in a real example. So there is

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this plumbing company in a market where everyone was fighting

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for exceptional experienced plumbers. Particular company was offering seventy five

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grand a year full benefits company ban the Works couldn't

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keep their competitor down the street is offering sixty five thousand,

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and they had a waiting list of applicants. Say, market

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will this completely different results? And so I want to

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know what that competitor was doing differently. Well, yeah, they.

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Michael, I mean, look you you got us all of this.

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Man, Well they had. They created what they called a

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master plumber career path. Every new hire, Yeah to the

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l angle here. Every new hire got a clear written

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road map showing exactly how they how they could grow

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from entry level to master plumber, including all the training,

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certifications and salary increases along the way. But here's where

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it gets interesting. They didn't stop there. They created what

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he called the knowledge bank system. Every senior plumber in

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the company was paid extra to create training videos, sharing

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their expertise. These videos became a library that every employee

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could access twenty four to seven from their phone. So

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think about that. Think about what it meant for a

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young plumber. Instead of just getting a job, they were

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getting in the education. And instead of just earning a paycheck,

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they were building a career. And instead of just being

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another employee, they were becoming part of a learning community.

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The ultimate results were is they had turnover dropped to

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less than five percent per year, their average employee tenure

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went from eighteen months to over six years. And here's

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what's really fascinating, Their customer satisfaction scores went through the roof.

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Why because happy, well trained employees do better work. So

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now let me show you the second major mistake businesses

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make when it comes to employees. They create job postings

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that look exactly like everyone else's. Oh yeah, yeah, it's amazing.

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If you went to a deed indeed dot com and

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look up job postings in your industry, you'll see the

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following phrases in all likelihood seeking hard working individual, yeah,

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competitive pay yep, great benefits, must be real, liable. It's

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all that same generic nonsense. It's it's what I call

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employment jargon. Remember how we talked about marketing jargon and

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previous shows, Yeah, I hope so marketing. Well, this is

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I hope so advertising to employees. It's the same thing

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just for hiring. And let me show you what happened

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when that plumbing company rewrote their job posting. So instead

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of the usual boring list of requirements, they started out

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with this want to become a master plumber of a

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tie of employers who promised training and never deliver. We're

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the only plumbing company in the region with a documented

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career path and over three hundred dollars of recorded training

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from master plumbers with thirty plus years of experience. Wow,

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take a note of that. The one to become a

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master plumber, a tie of employers who promise training and

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never deliver. That's the problem the employee has that doesn't

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want and the unique solution to that problem, those plumbers

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unique solution to that problem is really only plumbing company

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in the region with a documented career path in over

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three hundred hours of recorded training from master plumbers with

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thirty plus years of experience. Ladies and gentlemen. That is

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an example of a position of market dominance to be

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the employer of choice. And so, yeah, and applications increased

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by five hundred percent of the first month. But here's

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what's really powerful. The quality of the applicants went up too.

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Why because yeah, we were they were attracting people who

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wanted to grow, not just people who needed a job.

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And so the third mistake, and this is a big one,

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is treating hiring like a transaction instead of building an

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employment brand. You see, most businesses only think about hiring

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when they need someone. That's like only you know, marketing

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your business when you're desperate for sales. That doesn't work.

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It's just there's no planning involved. There, there's no thought.

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But let me show you what a company, what building

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an employee brand looks like. So this company created what

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they call the always recruiting system, and here's how it works.

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Number one, they had monthly open houses where people can

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learn about careers and plumbing. Second, they had partnerships with

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local trade schools. Third they did they have separate YouTube

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channel sharing knowledge and expertise. Fourth, they had regular features

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on their best employees, and five community involvement showcasing their team.

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And they became known as the place to work if

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you wanted a career in plumbing. And here's what's fascinating.

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Their recruiting costs dropped to nearly zero because they had

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a constant stream of referrals from their current employees. But

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remember this, and this is crucial. None of this works

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unless it's real. You can't just market yourself as a

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great place to work. You have to actually be a

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great place to work. And that's where most businesses get

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it wrong. They try to solve their hiring problems with

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marketing and when they should be solving these problems with substance.

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So before I continue this discussion, we are going to

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take a ninety second break. Hey, their business owners, let

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me ask you something. Are you tied of blending in

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with your competitors? Frustrated with slow growth and slim margins? Well,

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I've got news for you.

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Everything you've ever learned about growing your business is wrong.

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But don't worry.

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I'm here to let you in on a secret weapon,

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your position of market dominance. It's what sets you apart,

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makes you irreplaceable, and has customers lining up at your door.

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My name is Michael Barberrita from Next Step CFO. I

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know what you're thinking. Sounds great, Michael, But how do

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I find my position of market dominance? Well, that's exactly

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why we've created our game changing implementation program called Next

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Step to Market Dominance. In just ninety days, we'll guide

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you step by step to a position of market dominance

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by uncovering your unique strengths that competitors can't touch. By

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crafting a message that resonates deeply with your ideal customer

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by building a strategy that turns you into the go.

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To expert in your field. Now this is in theory.

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These are battle tests strategies that have helped businesses like

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you as double, triple and quadruple their revenue. Don't let

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All right, Michael, we are back. So a couple of things. Yeah,

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we do a quick recap and then take some questions. Michael, So,

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let me just have you do a quick recap on

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the three mistakes and then we'll take some questions.

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Yeah. Sure. So the first mistake is, uh, it's all

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about the money. Yep, that's number one. The second try

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Figure second mistake.

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Second mistake, what was it?

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Yeah, you mean the marketing of the Yeah, the marketing.

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And then and then the third is treating hiring like

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a transaction instead of building an employment brand?

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The second one was about the marketing. You're right, the

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jargon that they use, Yeah, brilliant.

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it will continue on. So first question is.

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Would you in.

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like they're asking about the job interview process. How would

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you approach the job interview process given the fact that

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you want to have the great retention numbers, you want

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to be an employer of choice, you want to have

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this great brand. So how does that impact the job

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interview process?

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problem that the employee employee has and doesn't want. So

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in the case of that plumbing company, you want to

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address how the promise of training and the promise of

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delivering the training and reinforcing that because there's other employers

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who might say it, but they just say it and

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pass it, but just continue to re enforce that and

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then go and then go into detail as into your solution.

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you captivated and fascinated. Now you have to educate. So right,

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so I want to become a master plumber a tie

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of employers who promise training and never deliver. That's captivate,

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and then promise talking about the unique solution to that

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problem where we're the only plumbing company in the region

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with the documented career path and over three hundred dollars

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of recorded training from master plumbers with thirty plus years

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of experience. That's the fascinate and then you educate them

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with more detail about how that program works. So that's

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that's really where how the interviews are different from you know,

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from the traditional interviews really really yeah, it's really reinforcing

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what that how the problem and the solution, and then

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educating them more about how that solution will come about.

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Great and a really quick one. It's kind of an

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interesting question.

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So the idea of the job posting being just like

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their competitors job posting, there's some business owners that are saying, well,

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that's industry standard, So how do you keep industry standard

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in place but still speak to your uniqueness as an

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employer of choice.

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still use that jock, and it just doesn't do anything

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because the customer is saying, I hope. So in the

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case in marketing, and an employer is saying, yeah, I know,

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you know, I know, I know you know you have

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this program and that you know you have excellent benefits. Okay,

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you know, I hope, So I hope you have excellent benefits.

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lousy benefits, you know. So it's it's kind of I

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hope so marketing for employees and it but it's okay

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to use the jog and it's just that's not what's

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going to get the attention of.

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The one exactly.

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That's right to the employee. It's the problem they have

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they don't want and the solution, the unique solution that

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they're looking for that they can't find. That's just like

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the position of market dominance.

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Very helpfully, thank you.

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Okay, So, if you are just joining us, we're talking

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about how to become the employer of choice in your industry.

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And I just shared how one plumbing company transformed their

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hiring through always, through what they called the always recruiting system.

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Now let me show you something even more powerful. I

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want to tell you about Sarah, who owns a restaurant,

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and like every restaurant owner I know, she was struggling

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with staffing. And the industry average turnover is seventy five percent.

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That means most restaurants replace three quarters of their staff

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every single year. I mean, think about running a business

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like that where you're constantly training new people. So Sarah

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was dealing with all the unusual, all the usual restaurant problems,

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you know, people not showing up for shifts, constantly changing schedules,

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drama between the front and the back of the house.

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Probably sounding familiar to many restaurants.

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Who's yes.

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But here's where it gets interesting. They they did something

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that most business owners never think to do. Uh. She

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actually sat down with her staff and asked them one

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simple question, what's the worst part about working in restaurants

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in general? M And what they said was it wasn't pay.

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Of course, it wasn't the hard work. The number one

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complaint was unpredictable schedules. They couldn't plan their life, they

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couldn't arrange childcare, they couldn't even commit to taking a

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class because their schedule changed every week. So did something radical.

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She created the stable schedule guarantee. And here's how it works.

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Were schedules were posted thirty days in advance thirty days.

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Employees got to pick their preferred shift. If management had

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a change a schedule, the employee you had to work

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extra not got paid time and a half even if

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it wasn't overtime. And every employee got two weekend days

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off per month. Guarantee. Staff could swap shifts to an

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app with other employees, but management handled the paperwork. Okay,

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what this sounds like, chokie is a risk reversal?

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Right?

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Exactly, it really does when you think about it. The

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employer is taking most of the scheduling risk, if you will.

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Was this complicated to set up? Yep? It was. Did

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it require more plan for management? Who bet it did?

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But here's what happened. Turnover drop from seventy five percent

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to fifteen Wow, calls Calls decreased by eighty five percent,

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Customer satisfaction went up forty percent because the employees were happy,

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and sales increased by twenty two percent. And why did

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sales go up well because happy experienced staff sell more

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and provide better service. You know that old adage that

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that McDonald's you want fries with that? Well, you know,

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they weren't selling desserts, and so now all of a sudden,

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the employees are asking would you like to dessert? And

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they're actually asking the question and it converted exactly. Uh.

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And but here's what's really fascinating. The food costs went down.

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Why because experienced staff make fewer mistakes and waste less food. Interesting,

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So let me show you another example that that really

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drive this home. There was this IT company that was

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constantly losing people to bigger firms. They couldn't match the

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salaries that Google and Amazon were offering, so they thought

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they were doomed to be a training ground for bigger companies.

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But when they interviewed their team, which is what Sarah

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did if you were called, they discovered something surprising. The

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biggest complaint was in salary, It was being on call.

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These tech professionals were tired of getting emergency calls at

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two am, like doctors and having to handle critical problems alone.

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So they created the no solo on call policy. So

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every after every after hours emergency had two people assigned.

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The second person got paid just for being available if

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you handled it, and after ours emergency you could come

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in late the next day and they wrote, they created

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a rotation so no one was on call more than

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once every six weeks.

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Nice. And then they developed detail emergency protocols so junior

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staff could handle most issues. And the cost actually was

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about eight thousand per month an additional on call pay.

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But the result is they have turnover dropped to zero.

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That's right, zero, No one left for over eighteen months.

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The savings in recruiting and training alone paid for the

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program three times over. But here's where it gets really powerful.

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Remember how the plumber had a position of market dominance

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employer choice. Well, they turned this into a recruiting message,

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ted of handling, and that was this tight of handling

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critical emergencies alone at two am, we're the only IT

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company that guarantees you'll never have to sew a crisis solo.

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That was it. Those two sentences to captivate and the fascinate,

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the problem and the solution. Uh, that's a position of

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market dominance once again, employer of choice. So here's what happened. Ultimately,

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applications from experienced technicians doubled, but more importantly, they started

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to getting applications from senior engineers at bigger companies who

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were burnt out from being on call alone. And here's

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something else that's fascinating. Their client satisfaction scores went through

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the roof. Why yeah, yeah, because two heads are better

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than one in a crisis. Problems that solved faster and

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better because people were working together instead of struggling alone.

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But let me show you the real secret to making

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all this work. Most businesses try to solve their staffing

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problems by copying what other companies do. Well, that's exactly

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the wrong way, since when you know, since when does

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doing what your competition is doing work? It doesn't. So

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the key is to solve problems that no one else

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is solving. So think about it. If everyone offers competitive

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pay and benefits, those things become the minimum expectation. They

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don't make the special. They don't make you the employer

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of choice. What makes you special is solving the real

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problems that really bug employees. So let me take another break.

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This is before we continue this discussion. This is a

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good stopping point. We'll take another ninety second break. Great, hey,

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their business owners, let me ask you something. Are you

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tied of blending in with your competitors? Frustrated? With slow

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growth and slim margins. Well, I've got news for you.

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Everything you've ever learned about growing your business is wrong.

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Don't worry.

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I'm here to let you in on a secret weapon,

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your position of market dominance. It's what sets you a part,

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makes you irreplaceable, and has customers lining up at your door.

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My name is Michael baber Rita from Next Step CFO.

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I know what you're thinking. Sounds great, Michael, But how

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do I find my position of market dominance? Well, that's

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exactly why we've created our game changing implementation program called

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dominance by uncovering your unique strengths that competitors can't touch.

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By crafting a message that resonates deeply with your ideal customer,

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by building a strategy that turns you into.

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The go to expert in your field. Now this is

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in theory.

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These are battle tested strategies that have helped businesses like

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you as double, triple and quadruple their revenue. Don't let

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another quarter go by struggling to standout. It's time to

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dominate your market. Period go to NEXTSTEPCFO dot net forward

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slash contact.

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Fill out the form and in.

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The message section put the word dominate or call us

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at seven eight one three two six three A two two.

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That's NEXTSTEPCFO dot net forward slash contact or call us

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at seven eight one three two six three A two two.

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So welcome back to powerful business strategies. And if you're

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just joining us, we're talking about becoming the employer of

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choice in your industry. And I've been sharing real examples

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of how businesses have transformed their ability to attract and

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keep great employees. Now I want to show you something

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that will completely change how you think about employee retention.

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This particular employer called it the Career Investment System, and

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it's based on the discovery he made in his manufacturing company. See,

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this company was losing skilled machine as faster than they

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could train them. They were offering you know, good pay,

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good benefit, it's all the usual. But here's what they

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discuss it when they dug deeper that their best employees

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weren't leaving for money, they were leaving because they felt stuck.

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So they created something really revolutionary called the skill Investment account.

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And here's how it worked. So every employee got five

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thousand dollars per year to invest in their own development.

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They could use it for any training or certification that

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they wanted, and if they stayed with the company for

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two years after using the money, they could keep it.

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If they left earlier, they had to pay back a

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pro rated proportion, and they earned additional pay increases for

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each new skill that they mastered. And so you know,

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I know that, But you know now, I know that

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some of you are thinking, Michael, what if I invest

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all this money in training and they leave? Anyway? Yeah,

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well let me ask you this. What if you don't

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invest in training and they stay, which costs more training

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people who might leave, or not training people who stay.

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So the results were really incredible. Yeah, not only did

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the retention improved to ninety five percent, but productivity shot

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up by forty Why because people who are learning new

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skills are more engaged, more efficient, and simply better. And

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here's where it gets really interesting. They started getting applications

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from competitors' best employees. Why because they became known as

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the company that invests in its people. They became known

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as the place where you could build a career and

483
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not just earn a paycheck. So let me share another

484
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example that will really drive this home. This is an

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accounting firm that was struggling with the same issues every

486
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accounting firm faces brutal tax seasons, burnout, and high turnover.

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They created what they called the Life First scheduling program.

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And what happened is is mandatory no mandatory saturdays during

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tax season, remote work options, three days a week. Every

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employee got five consecutive days off after April fifteenth, flexible

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start and end times, and additional paid time off accrewl

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during the tax season. Now was the owner of this

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accounting firm nervous about this? Oh? Sure he was, and

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his biggest far was that work wouldn't get done. But

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here's what actually happened. Productivity increased by twenty five percent,

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error rates dropped on the tax returns dropped by forty percent,

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client satisfaction scores hit all time highs, and then became

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known as the best accounting firm to work for in

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their area. And why did productivity go up when people

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were working less? Because rested, happy people do better work.

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That simple. Yeah, but here heah. But here's what's really fascinating.

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Their revenues actually increased as well. Why because their employees

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started referring high value clients to the firm. They were

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proud to work there and wanted their friends and family

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to do business with them. So, now let me show

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00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:26.000
you how to implement this in your business. Now, it

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00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:32.359
starts with what I call the employee experience audit. You need, yeah,

508
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and you need to map out every touch point and

509
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.359
employee has with your company. That's the key. And those

510
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:45.279
touch points usually are the hiring process, onboarding, daily work experience,

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training and development, performance reviews, career advancement, recognition and rewards,

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communication systems, work life balance, and exiting process. And so

513
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:08.000
at each touch point you have to ask yourself or

514
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:14.240
interview employees, is this experience making people want to stay

515
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:17.839
and grow with us? Or is it pushing them? Each

516
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:21.079
touch point you have to make an evaluation as to

517
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:26.240
whether or not it's something that attracts or detracts the employees.

518
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And so here's an example. A company in the trades

519
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:35.440
completely transform their onboarding process and instead of using instead

520
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of the usual first day paperwork and safety videos, they

521
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:43.160
created what they called a success week because they felt

522
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that the most important week of employment was that first

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00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.720
week that that really set the tone. And so on

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day one you would meet your success team and mentor.

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Day two you would learn systems and processes. Day three

526
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:02.480
you would shadow your mentor. Day four you had hands

527
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:06.680
on practice with feedback, and then day five you would

528
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:11.239
plan your first ninety days of growth. And then ninety

529
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:13.920
day retention rate went from sixty to ninety eight percent.

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Why because they showed people from day one that this

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wasn't just another job, that it was a place where

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00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:25.119
they could actually succeed. And He's the most important thing.

533
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:31.000
None of these strategies work and isolate. You need what

534
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:34.920
I called total employment experience. It's not enough to have

535
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.559
good pay, of good benefits, of good training. You need

536
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:42.960
all of it working together, creating an environment where people

537
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:49.679
want to stay and grow. So we've spent the last

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00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:53.559
several minutes talking about the bigger elephant in the room,

539
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:56.599
and the elephant in many boardrooms as a matter of fact,

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00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:02.840
how to become the employer of choice in industry. And

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now I just want to give you some specific action

542
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:11.159
items that you can implement starting tomorrow. Okay, but first,

543
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let me just share one last story that brings all

544
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of this together. There was this company in the landscaping industry,

545
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:23.480
and like everyone in his industry, he struggled with hiring

546
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:27.559
and retention, and he was constantly losing people to competitors,

547
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.079
sometimes for as little as fifty cents more per hour.

548
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And one day he said something that really struck me.

549
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He said he felt like he was running a training

550
00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:42.519
school for his competitors. I hire people, I train them,

551
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:46.559
and then they leave for somewhere else. That probably sounds familiar,

552
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:51.559
especially in the trades. So what he did was something

553
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:56.079
really radical. He turned his company into an actual training school.

554
00:35:56.840 --> 00:36:01.559
He created the Green Career Academy. So every employee got

555
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:08.320
certified training and landscape design, they got equipment operations certifications,

556
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:16.639
they got business management training, leadership development, and safety certifications.

557
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:22.239
And here's what happened. Not only did his turnover drop

558
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:26.559
to almost zero, but his competitors started sending their people

559
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:31.599
to him for training. He turned his biggest business problem

560
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:34.679
into a profit center, and he charged those He charged

561
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:40.039
those competitors. It just it was just incredible. So let

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me let me give you five specific actions that you

563
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:47.760
can take this week to stop transforming your business into

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an employer of choice. So, first, conduct stay interviews with

565
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:57.000
your best employees. Don't wait until they leave to have

566
00:36:57.039 --> 00:36:59.800
an exit interview, call it a stay interview. To find

567
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:03.760
out what keeps them around. Ask them why did they

568
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:07.760
choose to work there with you? What would make you leave?

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Be frank, open, honest, This is this is this is

570
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:14.880
just being really open with people. What's the best part

571
00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:18.199
of working here, what frustrates to you the most, and

572
00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:21.840
what one thing would make this a better place to work.

573
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So if you ask those questions that have open and

574
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:28.519
honest discussions with employees, they'll really appreciate it, by the way,

575
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:33.840
but you'll learn so much. The second map out a

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00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:38.119
clear career path for every position in your company. People

577
00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:41.159
need to see a future, not just a job. Show

578
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:43.920
them exactly how they can grow, what skills they need

579
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:47.920
to develop, and what rewards will be for them will

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00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:53.239
be available to them. The third thing is look at

581
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.039
your job postings. If they look like everyone else's, rewrite

582
00:37:56.039 --> 00:38:00.480
them to focus on what makes you truly different. To

583
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.760
focus on the problem that employees have that they don't want,

584
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:09.679
because remember, it's not about what you want, it's about

585
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:16.280
what your ideal employees want. And then fourth, you create

586
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:21.440
a total employment experience plan. Look at every touch point

587
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:25.599
from hiring to advancement, and then make sure that one

588
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.639
reinforces the other and why you're the employer of choice.

589
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:34.079
So look at every touch point from hiring to advancement

590
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:37.800
and make sure that each one reinforces the other and

591
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:41.719
why you're the employer of choice. And then fifth, and

592
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:46.360
this is really, really really crucial, stop marketing your employment

593
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:50.880
brand even when you're not hiring. The best time to

594
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:53.199
find great people is before you need them. It's like

595
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:56.480
the best time to get a credit line for your

596
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:59.280
business is before you need it because banks will never

597
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:04.079
give you money when you need it. Oh, so you

598
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:06.320
you have to be proactive. And it's the same thing

599
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.719
in building an employment brand. You have to constantly be

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working on it, not just when you need people. So

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00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.239
let me leave you with this thought before we get

602
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:21.679
to compliments. You know, everything you ever learned about hiring

603
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:25.119
and attention might be wrong, but this is absolutely right.

604
00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:29.840
The best employees want to work for the best employers.

605
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:37.519
Your job is to become that employer. Tookie, It's it's

606
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:39.519
time for compliments, and then you can set it back

607
00:39:39.519 --> 00:39:40.760
for me for some final thoughts.

608
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Absolutely, so, look energized by today's episode and Michael I

609
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:46.639
took some really good notes.

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So thank you.

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We have three business compliments in our compliments segments today

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and we have a fourth surprise business.

613
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Compliment, so let's get to it. The first is Auto.

614
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Seagull is president of Genius Coaching, and they provide family

615
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and parental coaching.

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And here's their mission statement.

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At Genius Coaching, they believe that every human being is

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valuable and born with an innate ability and desire to

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find their unique brilliance, and so they encourage this joyful

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00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:27.880
treasure hunt guided by three simple questions, what are you

621
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:29.920
good at, what do you love to do?

622
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And who are you?

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So to find out more, feel free to check out

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Auto and Team at geniuscoaching dot com. The second business

625
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compliments spotlight is Mark Smith. Mark owns five minus locations,

626
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.920
so we're all to some extent familiar with midas. They

627
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:57.679
provide auto and car service options. And what Market Team

628
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:00.760
do is they perform all types of services, whether it's

629
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break related, oil.

630
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Changes, on and on and on.

631
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And Mark's going to be opening a sixth location before

632
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:13.039
year end, a testament to his success. In addition to that,

633
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:18.280
one of Mark's locations has the largest volume based on

634
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:24.320
service delivery across all of the Midas franchises, so Kudo's

635
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:27.559
market team. You can check out more at Midas of

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00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:31.639
Central Va dot com. So they're located in the Virginia area,

637
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So Midas Central Va dot com.

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The third Marjorie Goldberg.

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Really energized by the spotlight, so margins with Zenith Gallery

640
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:45.559
and what they do is they specialize in helping businesses

641
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:53.440
communicate their mission and vision using culture and fine art

642
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:58.760
and find craft furnishings. So very creative in how they

643
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.400
make an impact in the business community.

644
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Now the last, but absolutely not the least.

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This is a surprise, right We on behalf of the

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00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:13.400
Next Step cfour brought a team and really the family

647
00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:15.920
and friend network of Next Step CFO. We want to

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00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:21.079
compliment Michael Barbarita, the president of Next Step CFO, for

649
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:22.000
today's compliment.

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This is also part of our celebration. It's Gratitude month,

651
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:25.639
it's a month.

652
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Of Thanksgiving, and we're really just on behalf of all

653
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of us when it's to say a big thank you

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to Michael and part of what we did.

655
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And I've had the honor of working with Michael for

656
00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:34.360
a while.

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There are number of folks that I've participated in roundtables

658
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:41.800
with business roundtables as well as in book interviews with

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and some of these individuals have worked with.

660
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:45.039
Michael for decades.

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So what I did is I catalogued some of their

662
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commentary on the impact.

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That Michael has had in their business. So here are

664
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a couple of those.

665
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Without Michael's partnership, I would have completely given up my

666
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:05.719
dream of owning and managing my own business. Second commentary,

667
00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:08.639
the best way to describe what Michael does for me

668
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:11.639
as a business owner is that he gives me and

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my family peace of mind and then provides me with

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the confidence that I need to make sound business decisions.

671
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And then the third commentary, I really love this one.

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So here's why.

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What this business owner noted. Anyone can crunch numbers and

674
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:30.039
present spreadsheets, but what Michael does is above and beyond

675
00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:32.239
the traditional CFO.

676
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:35.880
He is so strategic, He has been.

677
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There as a business owner, and he totally relates to

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00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:42.920
the challenges that business owners have, both as it relates

679
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:44.639
to finance and strategy.

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Michael compliments to you so.

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Back, thank you, thank you, Chicky. That was very kind,

682
00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:52.880
too kind. As a matter of fact, I want to

683
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.440
know how much you paid each individual person to say

684
00:43:55.440 --> 00:44:02.440
that I love it. So last week we were talking

685
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:05.639
about frequency of sales, how to get more sales from

686
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:08.320
existing customers, and I wanted to share one final story

687
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:11.760
that I didn't have time for, and this was a

688
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:14.440
massage therapist who was struggling to get clients to book

689
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.159
more frequently, which was basically the topic of our show

690
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:21.119
last week. And like most massage businesses, she was stuck

691
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.000
in the when you need it model, but she completely

692
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:26.199
reversed that thinking. And what I mean by the when

693
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you need it model is the customer's mindset was, you know,

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I'll come when I need it. I'll come when I

695
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.639
need a massage. So she created what she called the

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00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:39.480
Wellness Journey program. Instead of waiting for clients to book

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when they were in pain, she created specialized treatment sequences

698
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.480
for like the stress Management series that's one of them

699
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:52.280
was called the Athletic Performance Package, the Time Sleep Program,

700
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:57.440
the Office Workers Relief Plan, and each program required regular

701
00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:00.719
visits over three or four months. But here's the case.

702
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She wasn't selling massages anymore. She was selling outcomes, and

703
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:09.559
that's a different shift of mindset. Her average client went

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from booking six times per year to twenty four times

705
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.039
per year in her revenue quadruple without adding a single

706
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:20.599
new client. And so, and let me show you now

707
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:25.840
something really powerful that the next need anticipation system. This

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00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:30.480
is about predicting what your customers will need before they

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00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:33.920
even know they need it. And here's another strategy that's

710
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:39.239
just pure goal, the cross experience enhancement. Let me show

711
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.559
you how this worked for a personal trainer. Most trainers

712
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:47.119
think their job is just about exercise, but this particular

713
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:52.960
trainer looked at what else impacts a client's fitness goals, nutrition, sleep,

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00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:59.320
stress management, recovery, and lifestyle habits. So instead of offering

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a training sessions, he created what he called life enhancement partnerships,

716
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and he partnered with nutritionists, a massage therapist, a sleep specialist,

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a medallion, a meditation coach, and meal prep services. This

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is really great for our joint venture partnership segment that

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we did in a previous show. And so he did

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provide these services himself, he coordinated them, and he became

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the quarterback for his clients overall wellness. His average client

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went from spending five hundred dollars per month with him

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the over two thousand dollars a month on various services,

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and he got a percentage of every referral. But here's

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what's really important to understand. None of these strategies feel

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like selling to your customers. You're not pushing products or services.

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You're solving their problems and enhancing their experience. And let

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me give you one final example that proves this works

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in any industry. This is a company that sold industrial supplies.

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Pretty boring, right, but he transformed transformed his business with

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what he called the usage optimization program. So instead of

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waiting for customers to order when they ran out of supplies,

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he created monthly usage analysis, quarterly efficient reviews, I'm sorry,

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quarterly efficiency reviews, automated reordering systems, waste reduction programs, and

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cost savings assessments. His customers started buying more frequently because

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he made it easier to buy and showed them how

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to save money by managing air inventory better. And his

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average customer went from ordering six times per year to

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ordering every two weeks or twenty six times per year,

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and his margins actually increased because of the efficiency in

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larger and more regular orders, not to mention his speed

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of delivery. To get a copy of the book Powerful

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Business Strategy, simply go to our website www dot NEXTSTEPCFO

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dot net. It's totally complementary and until next Monday at

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noon Eastern time for Chucky Obio. This is Michael Barberita,

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and remember, don't keep doing what your competition is doing.

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You have been listening to Powerful Business Strategies finding out

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that everything you ever learned about growing your business is wrong.

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Tune in next week and every week at noon Eastern

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time on W four CY Radio with your host Michael

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Barbarita of Next Step CFO and moderator Chugy Obio