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Welcome to Powerful Business Strategies, where you will find out
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that everything you have ever learned about growing your business
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is wrong. Finally, a show where you'll learn the right
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way to grow your business by learning business and financial
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strategies that your competition isn't doing. And now here's your host.
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Resident of Next Step CFO Michael Barbarita and joining Michael
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for today's show as an executive moderator is chooky obia.
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Yes, this is chokey, and I believe that gratitude is
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undefeated and growth is about the next step. It is
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an honor for me to moderate today's discussion with my
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good friend Michael.
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Michael, how are you excellent? How are you, Choky? How
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is your thanksgiving? Well?
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My thanksgiving was full of gratitude. How is yours?
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Likewise? But full of food? That's the problem. There you
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go against my doctor's wishes. Well, thank you, Chocky. My
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name is Michael Baberria, President of Next Step CFO, and
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next Step CFO is a fractional CFO and strategic implementation
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firm and our vision is to ensure overwhelmed business owners
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achieve the time, freedom, and consistent profits to build a
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legacy and live the life they desire. And our mission
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is dedicated to guiding small business owners to leveraging their time,
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exploding their profits, and building a meaningful legacy. This show,
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Powerful Business Strategies in our book of the same name,
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is a step toward accomplishing that vision and mission. So
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with that, I would like to hand it back to
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my co author and moderator for the show, Choky Obio.
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Yes, so.
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It's quite energizing, right Michael. I mean you mentioned being
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full of food. I believe today's episode is going to
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be full of a lot of food for thought.
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How about that? Right? There A lot of people thoughts.
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So folks, you know we have a number of people
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listening Coast to Coast. I mean, we'll continue to really
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grow the audience for this show. And look, Michael and
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I were both affiliated with a number of different organizations.
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I currently serve as a managing director of business development
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for Vetterprice, a global business focused law firm. In addition
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to that, it's truly an honor to collaborate with Michael
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to moderate business roundtables coast to coast and just document
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the best practices from those roundtables. That's part of what
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informs our book called Powerful Business Strategies. But please, folks,
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note that the views expressed on this show are our
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personal views based on our successful experiences and my mission
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as a fearless moderator to ask the right questions to
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help you the listener, learn the best practices and best
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business strategies that the competition isn't doing.
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So with that, I'll toss it back over to Michael.
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Thank you, Jucky. So we're going to talk about something
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that's causing you thousands in profits and law actually in
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lost profits, and that's your approach to bundling and packaging
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your products or services. You know, just last week I
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was working with a client who runs a successful HVAC company.
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And he looked at me frustrated and said, Michael, everyone
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in my industry offers the same maintenance packages. We're all
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just competing on price. Does that sound familiar. Well, I've
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got news for you. Everything you've learned about bundling and
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packaging your services is wrong, and I can prove it
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to you today. Did you know that most businesses actually
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lose money on their bundles and they because they think
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they're creating value, but they're really just discounting themselves into
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lower profits. But here's what's fascinating. The most profitable companies
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in any industry who are bundling and packaging aren't the
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ones with the lowest prices or the biggest discounts. They're
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the ones who understand the science of strategic packaging. And
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over the next forty minutes or so, I'm going to
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share specific strategies that have helped business owners increase their
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average transaction value by forty to two hundred percent using
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what I call strategic value bundling. And I'll show you
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exactly how one company went from selling eighty nine dollars
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service to nine hundred and ninety seven dollars premium packages
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and their customers thank them for it. And I'm going
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to reveal what I call the bundle profit formula, a
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systematic way to create packages that your competition can't copy
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and your customers can't resist. And the best part, once
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you understand this formula, you can repeat it over and
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over and over again in any business. So grab a
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pen and paper, because I'm about to share strategies that
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will completely change how you think about packaging your products
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and services. And if you're driving, don't worry. You can
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catch this episode again at our podcast at but Powerful
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Business Strategies dot com. So if you're just joining us,
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we're going to talk about strategic value bundling and I
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promise to show you exactly how to do it. So
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let me tell you about Tom. Tom runs a successful
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auto repair shop, and like most shop owners, he was
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offering the standard oil change package that included an oil
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change filter, basic inspection, maybe a tire rotation thrown in.
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He was competing with every other shop and who offered
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the exact same packages, and his margins were getting squeezed
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tighter every year. And then he implemented what he called
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the value stack method. So instead of just bundling services
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based on cost, he bundled based on what customers actually value.
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And by the way, he discovered through a survey of
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his customers, and I'll say that again, he discovered the following.
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Through a survey of his customers. He found that eighty
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five percent were worried about unexpected repairs, seventy two percent
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hated having to make multiple trips, ninety percent wanted peace
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of mind about safety, sixty eight percent would pay more
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for convenience. So what he did is he created what
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he called lifetime value packages. So he had that basic
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care package, you know that eighty nine dollars standard oil
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change that everybody else was doing, with twenty seven point inspection,
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a fluid top off, tire rotation, all that stuff. But
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then he stepped up to a Premium Protection package, which
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was everything that was in the basic plus the annual
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state auto inspection, brake inspection, battery service, road trip safety check,
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priorities scheduling, and a digital maintenance tracker. And then he
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upgraded everybody to what he called the Ultimate Piece of
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Mind package, which include everything in the Premium package plus
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twice yearly alignments. All included in the package annual brake service,
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battery replacement program, tire rotation program, twenty four to seven,
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roadside assistance, which, by the way, he subcontracted out to
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Triple A or one of those roadside assistance companies, VIP scheduling,
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and monthly vehicle health reports. And here's how the pricing went.
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The basic was eighty nine dollars, that was that clone
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of everybody else. The premium was two ninety seven, and
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then the ultimate was nine to ninety seven. And what
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happened is sixty five percent of customers chose the premium
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or ultimate package, and his average transaction value went from
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eighty nine dollars to over four hundred dollars. And the
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cost to deliver these packages only increased by thirty percent,
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while his revenue increased by three hundred and fifty percent.
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Because he wasn't just bundling services, it's creating value that
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customers couldn't find anywhere else. Sounds like a position of
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market dominance to me, actually, So let me show you
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another example that will really drive this home. So Sarah,
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who runs a successful house cleaning service. Like most cleaning companies,
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she was charging by the hour or by the square
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footage and when she analyzed her business, she found she
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was leaving thousands on the table. So she created what
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she called lifestyle experience packages, and there were basically three packages. Again,
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one was called Essential Cleaning, which was standard cleaning, basic sanitation,
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surface dusting, and floor care. That was one package. The
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other package she called the Healthy Home Package, which included
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everything in the first price point Essential package plus deep sanitization,
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air vent cleaning, allergen treatment, natural cleaning products, and monthly
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indoor air quality report. All above and beyond what all
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the competition was doing, and it was a step up.
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The third was what she called Total Home Transformation Package,
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so everything in the Healthy Home package plus quarterly deep cleaning,
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pantry organization, closet organization, garage organization, and a monthly maintenance plan,
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priority scheduling and season of deep cleaning. Now the pantry organization,
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the closet organization, and the garage organization she actually subcontracted
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to a professional organizer, and so she had that was
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part of her cost of that package. But the results
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were incredible because her average client value increased by one
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hundred and eighty percent in the first ninety days, and
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her customer retention went up because she wasn't selling cleaning anymore.
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She was selling a better lifestyle. But let me show
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you the real secret to making this work. See, most
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businesses make these three critical misses stakes with bundling. Number one,
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they focus on cost instead of value. Two, they bundle
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what's easy instead of what's wanted. Okay, so what's easy
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to bundle together they do instead of what's really wanted
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by the customer. I mean a perfect example is like
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things like that Sarah did, priorities scheduling and you know,
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monthly maintenance, seasonal deep cleaning, those types of things that
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those are what customers really wanted. Now did you have
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to work to get to you know, to get to
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that point? You have to do some change a little
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bit of her mode of operation so to speak. Absolutely,
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but it paid off big. So once again those three
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critical mistakes. Number one, they focus on cost instead of value.
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Number two, they bundle what's easy instead of what's wanted.
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And number three, they compete on price instead of customer experience. Interesting.
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So Michael, let's pause here and just take a couple
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of questions and comments from the audience.
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I do you have just a minute for that?
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Sure?
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Brilliant, So look This is a really interesting I believe
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this particular business owner tuned into one of our last episodes,
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so they referenced this point about how you recommend every
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one hundred and eighty days to have sort of a
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customer relationship review conversation. Right, right, great, So part of
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the frame for their question on this, Michael, is to
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really know what's wanted as part of a bundle or package.
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Do you think it makes sense to have that as
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part of the customer relationship review conversation, you know, once
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every six months or so.
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Yeah, it's really important because understanding what the customer really wants,
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and you know, I think it starts with the business
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owner thinking outside the box. Okay, and by the way,
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you can use it for this. You know, what are
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some services that I can offer as an HVAC company
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or as a cleaning service that go above and beyond?
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And then you take that list and then you ask
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the customer during those reviews. I mean, now, you know,
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I don't want to take the creative thinking away from
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any of the business owners out there, because if they
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could come up with their own, fine, But a lot
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of people get stuck on this because they can't think
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outside of what they do in the ordinary course of business,
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and AI can help them with that, especially if they
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train the robot about their business. So yeah, that would
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be that would be my answer to that question. And
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if they could come up with those different things, or
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if their AI robot could come up with those different things,
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they can present them to the customers and see if
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there's real value there.
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That's brilliant.
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And this is also another business owner who I believe
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is listened to some of our last episodes, Michael. They
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ask does this relate to the customer avatar? So, in essence,
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can they reference their customer avatar process as part of
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figuring out what customers.
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Wants as part of a bundle or package.
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Yeah, that's really an excellent it is. Yes, that's an
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excellent question. Excellent idea that it could be part of,
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you know, this process of creative thinking of additional services
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that you can offer in a bundle. That's part of
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the what the customer goes through, you know what their
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thought process is, you know, and when you present that idea,
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will the light bulb go on to the customers say yes, man, yes,
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I'd be very interested in that, or no, I won't.
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I won't be very interested in that to which would
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be outside the scope of the avatar. So yeah, so
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understanding that that avatar is really a great way to
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really understand what the customer is thinking. And you have
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to put yourself in the position of that of a customer,
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that ideal customer, the ideal customer. Yes, so now these
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are three mistakes that I want to go through again.
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They focus on costs instead of value. They bundle what's
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easy instead of what's wanted, and they compete on price
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instead of customer experience. You know, customer experience. You know,
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all professional sports teams are really focusing on customer experience.
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So when you go to a game now, it's so
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different than it was twenty thirty years ago. I mean,
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it's just like totally completely different. There's more of a
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customer experience. There's reality events going on, there's all different
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types of activities, you know, using the Jumbo Tron and
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all of that stuff. It's the same thing here. We
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want to improve the customer's experience. So here's how to
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avoid these mistakes. For every product or service you offer