Aug. 20, 2024

5 Areas Where Cash Flow Problems Occur and How to Solve Them

We identify 5 critical areas where cash flow problems occur in a business and how to address every one of those problems. We plan on providing some additional bonus content as well regarding cash flow.

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Welcome to Powerful Business Strategies, where you will find out

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that everything you have ever learned about growing your business

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is wrong. Finally, a show where you'll learn the right

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way to grow your business by learning business and financial

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strategies that your competition isn't doing. And now here is

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your host Resident of NeXTSTEP CFO Michael Barbarita and joining

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Michael for today's show as an executive moderator is Chooky Obio.

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Yes, Michael, this is chookey.

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How are you fantastic? Choky? How you doing I'm doing well.

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Look, Michael, I believe that gratitude is undefeated and growth

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is about the next step. So it is an honor

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for me to moderate today's show.

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So look, let's jump right into it.

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Michael, let's reflect any high level takeaways from our last episode.

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No, I think, I think. I think it was a

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great show, and I think people should go back and

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listen to the replay because it was really terrific. So absolutely,

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but I want to thank you. I want to thank you, Chucky.

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My name is Michael bob Arita, President of Next Step CFO,

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and Next Step CFO is a fractional CFO and strategic

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implementation firm, and our vision is to ensure that overwhelmed

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business owners achieve the time, freedom, and consistent profits to

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build a legacy and live the life they desire. Our mission,

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our mission is simple. It's dedicated to guiding small business

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owners to leveraging their time, exploding their profits, and build

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a mainingful legacy. And this show, Powerful Business Strategies and

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our book of the same name, is a step toward

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accomplishing that vision and mission. So with that, I'd like

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to hand it back to my co author and moderator

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for the show, Cheocky Obio.

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Michael, it's interesting each time I hear you sort of

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outline that mission and vision for NeXTSTEP ciofo again a

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business that you've built through the years. I'm just additionally inspired, right,

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So look before we jump in, folks, a quick disclaimer,

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Michael and I are both affiliated with a number of

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different organizations and I currently serve as the managing director

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of Business Developments for Vetter Price, Global business focused law firm.

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In addition to that, I collaborate strategically with Michael really

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Coasts to Coast on a business round table where we

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moderate these roundtables, we learn best practices from business owners

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and leaders. In addition to that, we document these business

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best practices in our book, as Michael reference powerful business strategies.

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Now, the views that we'll.

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Express today these are our personal views, but they are

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views based on the success of our experiences and my

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mission today just as a fearless moderator michaelis to ask

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the right questions and to help all of us candidly

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learn the best business strategies that the competition isn't doing.

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So, Michael, I'll hand it back over to you.

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Yeah, thank you, jokey. So today our show is about

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five areas that need to be looked at when you

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have a cash flow problem and how to solve them.

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You know, a couple of months ago, I did a

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survey of two hundred and eighty business owners, and that

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survey said that and seventy percent of them said their

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number one challenge was cash flow. So today I'd like

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to discuss these areas that need to be looked at,

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these five areas that need to be looked at when

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you have a cash flow problem. And so let me

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review those five areas. It's too much inventory, working with

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slow paying clients or customers, selling prices are too low,

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gross profit margins are too low, and paying bills too early.

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And if we have some time at the end of

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the show, we'll have some bonus content where we look

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at some additional areas that can be looked at if

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you have a cash flow problem. Now, I had a

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client who called me a couple of years ago because

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he had a cash flow problem. When you have a

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cash flow problem, the first thing you have to do

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is identify where that cash flow problem is coming from.

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And so when I looked at his financial statements and

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then I prepared a business and cash flow forecast for him,

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it was evident that they were over buying inventory. And

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in my what is this in cash flow forecast, I

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have this little tool called an inventory receipts and accounts

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payable schedule by month, and with that schedule, he knew

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exactly how much inventory he would bring in without overbuying,

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while knowing when he has to pay his inventory bills.

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That's remarkable.

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Yeah, And by following that forecast, he was able to

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increase his cash flow by one hundred thousand dollars on

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the same level of sales. So he didn't increase sales,

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but still increase cash flow one hundred thousand dollars because

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he was able to manage his inventory more efficiently and

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more effectively. And so inventory can kill you. And let

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me talk about that first area that needs to be

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looked at when you have a cash flow problem, and

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that is too much inventory.

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Great, So Michael, on that too much inventory point, let's

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absolutely double click and contextualize that. Now we do have

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just a couple of really quick questions books. As all

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of you know, there are a number of business owners

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that union really coast to coast. So Michael, first, on

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your survey you mentioned two hundred and eighty business owners.

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Was that cross industry, Yes, it was.

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It was industries from trades to the medical business, the

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medical business, medical industry. It was retail, it was manufacturing,

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it was service companies. So it was definitely a cross

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section of industries.

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That is very helpful.

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So the insights that you'll present are cross industry, not

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just based on one specific industry, correct, right, right, all right,

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thank you for that clarification.

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No problem. So in the case of too much inventory,

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it really covers the industries of retail, manufacturing, and distributors.

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Correct.

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But even you know, even electricians or you know, trades people,

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they carry inventory and they're gonna watch it and they're

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gonna watch it. So uh but so too much inventory

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is definitely definitely something that has to be looked at.

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First thing. And a great ski retailer in Massachusetts, his

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name was Roger Butcheker, once said that the less inventory

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you buy, the more money you make. And what Roger

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meant was is that too much inventory can put you

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out of business really quick. And as a matter of fact,

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the biggest mistake retailers make is overbuying, and over buying

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can surely cause cash flow problems, and too much inventory

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poses a significant risk of the business owner in poor

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cash flow and lower grows profit margins. Now, too much

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inventory results in lower gross profit margins because when you

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don't have the money to pay the inventory bill, you

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stop discounting to generate cash, and that really squeezes the margins.

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So too much inventory, by the way, as I said

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a little earlier, not only kills retailers, but it kills

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distributors who over buy and manufacturers who overproduced. And there

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are plenty of tools available that one can use to

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forecast the inventory requirements more efficiently. One I already mentioned

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was my business and cash Flow forecast that includes an

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inventory and accounts payable plan by month. Just by utilizing

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that tool, you're able to manage cash flow better like

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the client I talked about earlier, but also today's operating

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systems have inventory forecasting tools that allow you the opportunity

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to see where those overages are and every area that

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you have an inventory overage poses a risk, and I'm

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of the opinion that the best solution to an inventory

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overage problem is to price to move that inventory as

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soon as possible. It just makes no sense to sit

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on it when you could turn it into cash, no

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matter how small the amount of money you get for

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it and reinvest in fresher start moving inventory with the

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money that you collect from it, And I gotta tell you, chokey,

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this flies in the face of what business owners think.

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And I'm gonna give you an example. So I had

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a client in the hairbrush distribution business, okay, and because

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of a promotion that didn't meet sales expectations by a lot,

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the company ended up sitting on a seven year supply

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of this special hairbrush inventory. So you know, he had

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like sixty grand worth of inventory at cost and he

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was only selling about seven grand of it a year

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something to that nature. So he had a set he

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was sitting on seven years of inventory. Now, first of all,

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let me say that promotions that don't meet sales expectations

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that comment, and no one should be kicking themselves for

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taking a shot on a promotion even though it didn't work. However,

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but when a promotion doesn't work and it results in

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an inventory overage, one should work to address it immediately. Now,

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this particular client got an offer of fifteen thousand dollars

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for the special hairbrush inventory that had a cost to

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him that cost him sixty thousand dollars. Now, at regular prices,

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he could sell that inventory for one hundred hundred thousand, okay,

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but no one was buying it. And quite frankly, it

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was a dog. It was a dog. And so my

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suggestion was to take the fifteen thousand dollars reinvest it

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in fresh, fast moving inventory. And to give you an example,

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the fast moving inventory was turning eight times a year

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at a forty percent margin. Now, my client thought that

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if he could sell just fifteen percent of that hairbrush inventory,

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that special hairbrush inventory, at regular prices, he could make

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fifteen thousand in cash flow that he was being offered

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today and still have the rest of the inventory to sell.

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And this was true, but it would take them over

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a year to do it to get that fifteen grand

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where I was suggesting because it was just so slow

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moving and I called it a dog, it's actually a

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dog with fleas. There you go, right, So by taking

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the fifteen thousand dollars today and reinvesting it into that fresh,

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fast moving hairbrush inventory that he would go out and

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purchase with that fifteen thousand, that would turn eight times

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a year, and he would generate an additional two hundred

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thousand in cash flow that year instead of sitting on

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this inventory and waiting for fifteen thousand.

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Wow, Michael, Look you've struck a nerve with the audience here.

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So the questions are streaming in.

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One thing, just quick question, how would a business owner

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differentiate a slow moving inventory line from a faster movie

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an inventory line?

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Well, one way isn't called an inventory turns calculation. But

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there's several business owners that understand when something isn't selling.

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They just they just they just know it's still sitting

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there now if they're not paying attention. And sometimes they don't,

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you know, and all of a sudden they look at

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their inventory and this product that they thought was gonna

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fly out the door didn't. And and so that's when

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they it has to trigger a reaction. And so as

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as you can see from the example that I gave,

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because of the inventory turnover of the more productive inventory,

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it pays to cut your losses and get rid of

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the slower moving inventory at virtually any cost. And and chooky,

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this is very contrary to what most business owners think.

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And I understand why. Yeah, but I've seen it work

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time and time again. It's hard to admit when you

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have a dog, no matter how many fleas the dog has,

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we business owners still think we can sell it, and

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that is dangerous thinking. So the critical component here is

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to is to sell that inventory, that dog inventory, at

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all costs and just move it, price it to sell

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whatever it is, and then reinvest that that the proceeds

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from from whatever flea market rate that you got, put

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it back into that productive inventory that's going to turn

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for you, that's gonna that's gonna sell for you, and

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that's going to generate more cash for you.

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I love it, Michael.

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You're in the zone here, man, a lot of flea references,

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flea market.

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I love it.

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So there is one question that came in. I think

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it's it's worthy of some consideration, Michael. So I'll kind

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of play this question for you and let us know

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what you think. So can a business owner be justified

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in saying, maybe I don't have the right messaging for

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that slower moving inventory, so before I sort of cut

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my losses, should I try different messaging for that?

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And I know that's something we've talked about it.

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Yeah, boy, what a what a terrific that's a that's

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a genius question. I think that you know, if if

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see business owners usually have with special inventory or inventory

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on promotion. They usually have a target market already set

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up for it, Okay, and when that target market isn't buying,

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they can they probably will will, and probably it's a

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good idea to try one other methodology to get the

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word out. Okay, but after that cut the losses nice. Okay, yeah,

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you know, maybe one shot. But but but like I said,

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they usually have a target and an understanding of how

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they're going to sell that. When I was in retail

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and I made a special buy, I knew exactly how

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I was going to sell it, and if it didn't, well, boom,

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I was at it. I was gonna I blew it

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right out or you know, sold it to sell all that.

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So I think it once again, maybe you give it

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one shot if you think you've misjudged the marketplace. But

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other than that, if that doesn't work, forget it, forget it.

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Move on.

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Very helpful.

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The faster you move on, the better.

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That's very helpful, Michael, Yeah, very helpful.

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So the next area that you need to look look

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at it slow paying clients or customers. You know, lots

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of my clients continue to do business with customers who

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are slow paying or who don't pay at all. Sometimes

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they do it because they know the customer personally, do

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it because the customer's been been with them for a

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hundred years, you know, for a time. And sometimes they

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do it because business is bad and they just need

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to keep people busy and working, and they'll do anything

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to get business, so they they'll work with somebody who's

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slow they know is slow paying. But whatever the reason,

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it's bad practice to do business with customers who are

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slow paying or not paying at all. And I got

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many examples, but here's one example that I thought was

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the most important and more relevant to what I'm talking about.

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So I once had a client who did business with

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many of his longtime customers who always paid slowly. Now,

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when I first went to the client's office, they had

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one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in over ninety day

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receivables from these slow paying customers. Wow. Yeah, because their

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total receivable balance was two fifty so sixty percent of

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their accounts receivable was over ninety days to these types

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of customers who they had had for a long time,

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some were friends. And these customers were even slower to

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pay than previous history because the economy was weakening, which

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is one of the risks that you run when you

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let receivables carry out, all right, you run into a

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bad economic downturn and then no one can pay. Yeah,

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but since they were longtime customers, this client took no action,

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no action at all. So times were tough, you know,

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bad economy and all, and these customers knew by blowing

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off my client's bill nothing would happen. That's the other

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risk because believe me, every business owner knows who they

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could push the envelope with. Every business owner knows that

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if they don't pay someone, it won't matter because they're

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not going to get harassed about it. Everyone knows who

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those are as a matter of fact too. Not to

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criticize the legal profession, but a lot of people delay

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it paying legal bills exactly. I mean, it's one of

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the bills they could get away with because they establish

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a relationship with the attorney yea, and the attorney doesn't,

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you know, want to push the envelope until it gets

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real bad, you know. So legal bills is one of

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the things that gets delayed. And like I said, business

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owners understand who they could push the envelope with. So

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what I did is in that situation, okay, is I

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immediately put all these customers in collection and refuse to

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do business with them in the future. And some of

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these customers still came back to us and started paying

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cod overall collections dramatically improved with these customers. You know,

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there's just there's no rule of thumb to determine when

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a customer is slow paying. It's different for every business, correct,

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you know, yeah, I mean some people know that you know,

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this particular customer pays in forty days, but he pays

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in forty like clockwork, even though your terms are thirty's.

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That's okay, that's okay, we can you know, we generally

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there should be flexibility there. They if they could be

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counted on. But once it starts to get a little older,

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that's when there has to be some pressure applied. Okay.

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And like I said, it's different for every business, and

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the business owner needs to determine in a policy how

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many days past due is considered to be a slow

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paying customer.

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Remarkable, Now, Michael, again, you struck another nerve with that.

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So a couple of questions. I'll sort of consolidate this

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into one overarching question. Do you have any best practice

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ideas on the front end of a customer or client relationship,

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setting those expectations about payment terms.

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Any Yes, absolutely I do. And that's what I was

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going to go into, exactly establishing a system of collecting

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accounts receivable so that your receivable strategy is consistent, it's

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communicated timely to critical successful collections. And I want to

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give you an example. I want to propose if you

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will accounts receivable collection strategy. So assume an invoice with

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terms of thirty days. So let's just assume that the

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terms that you have with your customers on your invoice

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is thirty days. And by the way, on every invoice

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there should be a one and a half percent interest

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rate or eighteen percent a year interest when past due.

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Always always put that on there. But between the thirty

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fifth and fortieth day, depending upon who the customer is,

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unless you really know that they pay within that period

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of time, you contact the customer for payment. And so

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if the customer doesn't return your call or you weren't

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satisfied with the customer's answer, I then send them a

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ten day demand letter. Now this is a this is

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a letter that requires payment within ten days or the

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account gets put into collection, and you send that letter

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certified mail, so it gets attention. Now, it's certainly better

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iFIT the letter comes from an attorney, but I've had

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a lot of success in using a form letter that

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I put together. Okay, so I didn't have to pay

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the legal fees. And if anyone would like to get

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a copy of this letter, if you can go to

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next STEPCFO dot net. That's www dot next STEPCFO dot net.

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Go to our contact page and send me a note

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and I'll send it to you. Complimentary, Michael, complimentary.

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Nice.

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And so if the account doesn't pay within the eleventh

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to fifteen of sending that letter, then put the put

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the account in collection. Now, if you know the customer,

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you might give them a second chance or a third chance,

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whatever you want to do in terms of the initial

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phone call. But when they don't return your call or

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they ignore you, you have to take action. I mean

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you just have to. And I always use a collection

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agency that has a legal staff. So if the account

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is not collected using the traditional collection methods, legal action

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could be taken right away with that same staff that

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did the original collection and is familiar with the case.

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And I only do business with collection agencies, agencies that

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take no more than one third fee and have a

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legal staff. Once the account goes to collection, then you're

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out of it. Let the collection agency do its work.

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And once again, the key to the collection process is

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consistently and is consistency and timelines. And so let me

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just end this one segment with the best collection policy

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of all time.

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Okay, all right.

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Pretty ambitious statement there, Michael.

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And here it is in God, we trust everyone else

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pays cash up front. There you go, There is the

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best one ever right there. That'll work every time.

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Well said, so that.

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Yeah, So the next, uh, the next component that you

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have to look at is your selling prices. Now here's

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a rule of thumb that you should live by. You

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should get complaints about your selling prices one third of

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the time, so thirty three percent of the time your

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customers should complain about your prices. Otherwise your prices are

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too low. And I asked the client who hired me

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one time he was losing money, and I asked him

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if he got any customer complaints about his prices being

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too high. He was so proud of this, of this

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statement that he made, that he proudly said, I never

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get complaints about high prices, And I immediately told him

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that's one of the reasons why he was losing money,

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because prices are too low. You need to get negative

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feedback on your prices right around a third of the time,

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or you know, maybe say twenty to thirty three percent

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of the time. If you're not, your prices are too low.

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And so this particular client, you know, took heat of

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that advice and increased his prices, and then he started

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to get complaints, which you know, obviously bothered him. But

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at the same time, he only got about twenty five

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or thirty percent complaints, which is right in the wheelhouse

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of being priced correctly. So that's just a rule of

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thumb that you can use. And when you don't, when

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you don't get at least one third of your customers complaining,

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then your prices are simply too low. And when assessing

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your pricing and competitive pricing, you could always use your

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customers as the barometer. That one third rule of thumb

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really works. Now, one problem I see with business owners

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is when they're doing the selling. When business owners are

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actually doing the selling, they have a tendency to discount

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prices because why well, the buck stops with them. It's

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their business. They could take They could give discounts and credits,

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but if you have a tendency to do that, it's

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best to let an employee close the sale. Because one

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time I had a business owner client of mind where

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customers always used to go to that business owner for

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the final price and he would discount it and it

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was crazy. And any time these customers were working with

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somebody else, they got the the the salesperson down to

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a certain price and then said I'd like to speak

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to the owner and then he reduced it even more. Wow.

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And you know, so you know you should be reviewing

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your selling prices every six months, and business owners, if

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that's what you do, you got to stay out of

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the selling process. And what one thing that we do

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for business owners to keet who want to increase prices

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or don't want to increase prices, is we show them

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if they how many customers they could lose and have

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the same profit that they were enjoying for the price increase.

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So this is really interesting because I had a client

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just the other day where he was hesitant to have

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a price increase, and I did the analysis for him.

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I showed it to him online, and I showed them

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that if he lost fifteen percent of his customers, which

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in his case was fifty customers, he would have the

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same profit that he had before the price increase, So

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he could lose fifty customers and make the same amount

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of money. When I showed him this, he emphatically said,

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there's no way I'm going to lose fifty customers, and

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so we implemented the price increase. So it actually gave

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him confidence to implement the price increase, because that's one

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of the things that business owners just are afraid. They're

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afraid to increase prices because they feel they're going to

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lose too many customers. Well, we could perform an analysis

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for them to show them how many customers they can

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safely lose and maintain the same profit before the price increase.

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And by the way they lose those customers, they'll pick

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up others at the new pricing exactly.

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It's remarkable and intriguing, Michael. It's funny.

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So in a number of business roundtable discussions like you've

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mentioned this, and the light bulbs that go on, I mean,

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folks are just completely inspired by this. Give us a sense,

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right as part of this analysis. What are some of

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the mechanics what I mean, can we say just some

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minutes and walk through kind of the steps that you

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take to do that analysis.

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Yeah, So I have a Excel spreadsheet that will take

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your existing profit margins on your on the particular product

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that you're going to increase prices on or products or products.

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They have your They have the business owners information relative

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to sales, relative to gross profit margin, and also it

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incorporates a factor for if their cost a good soldier

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goes up, if you know, if the cost cause their

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suppliers grows up. So we take in all that information

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and the output from it, and then of course the

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price increase in this particular case with this client was

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fifteen percent. Okay, we take the price increase and we

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can tell the output from the spreadsheet is that this

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client can lose x percent or x customers and still

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maintain the same profit they had before the price increase.

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You use the word confidence in describing how business owners

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really digest this exercise, and I think that's spot on right.

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It goes back to a number of episodes, Michael, that

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we've talked about where it's about decision making, right, having

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the confidence to make the right decisions. But yeah, really

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really intriguing, and I imagine business owners could reach out

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to you to maybe talk through that kind of a consultation.

477
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:01.079
Absolutely if they just go to our website, NeXTSTEP CFO

478
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:04.039
dot net and go to the contact page, be happy

479
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:07.799
to help them on that. Great. But before I get

480
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:10.680
off increasing selling prices, I do want to talk about

481
00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:14.759
adding more value to a product or service. So another

482
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.240
way the business owner can get more confident in increasing prices,

483
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.400
because it's about confidence with what I've seen. You know,

484
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:27.319
if I mentioned just point blank or out of the blue,

485
00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.839
I think you should have a price increase, business owners,

486
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:36.079
you know, really like stepping up and get get real

487
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:40.000
nervous about it because they're just worried about losing customers.

488
00:30:40.599 --> 00:30:42.960
But another way the business owner could get more confident

489
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:46.319
in increasing prices is to find low cost ways to

490
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:50.160
add more value to the product or service. You know,

491
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:53.960
many times when I suggest that to business owners, have

492
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:57.319
a price increase and add and by adding more value,

493
00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:00.559
they magically come up with ways to enhance the value

494
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:04.160
at a low cost. You know, whether it's upgrading the

495
00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.960
packaging or adding more units to the to a package,

496
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:12.960
or adding a free report if it's a service. They

497
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.079
come up with these ideas on how you can add

498
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:19.200
more value to the existing product. And the more value

499
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:22.400
you add, the more propensity the customer has to buy.

500
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.759
And it's a great separator where you would be adding

501
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.279
more value and your competition isn't.

502
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:34.160
Yes, that's a really good nugget of wisdom. So we

503
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.400
got a question in actually a couple of questions, but

504
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:41.319
i'll consolidate. Do you have an example, Michael, of an

505
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:42.720
add value strategy?

506
00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:46.359
I do it, and it's a real strange one. Okay,

507
00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:49.920
but I did it. Ok So this is just one example.

508
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:53.000
I can give another. I'll give another example because this

509
00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:57.200
one's off the wall. Okay. So when I was in

510
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.160
the ski business, I gave away a free scratch lottery

511
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:04.000
ticket with every purchase of twenty five dollars or more.

512
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.720
Come into the store and spend at least twenty five

513
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:15.400
dollars and possibly become a Millionaire's look great, it was great.

514
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:19.559
It was I know it's great. So and by the

515
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.039
way we gave it. We gave it away a scratch

516
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:24.559
ticket for every twenty five dollars incremental So if they

517
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:28.799
spend one hundred bucks. They got four scripch tickets. So yeah,

518
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:31.359
and and you know it was low cost to us,

519
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:34.319
and it was a way to get people in the door.

520
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.519
But another way to add value is when I was

521
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:41.759
in the frozen cookie dope business, the problem the customer

522
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:44.640
had is they didn't want to waste valuable oven space

523
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:48.839
baking cookies. Now, the key is is to understand the

524
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:52.839
long term value of your customer. And I did, and

525
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.960
so I was able to make give them a two

526
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:59.279
hundred dollar convection of them with the with the purchase

527
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:05.119
of every with with any opening order. And I took

528
00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.920
the risk that they were going to stop ordering after

529
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.359
the first order, but I knew the product was good.

530
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:12.880
I was confident in the product. I understood the long

531
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:16.480
term value of a customer because the mathematics there, the

532
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:19.359
economics of the long term value of a customer told

533
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.359
me my average. You know, once I had a customer,

534
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:25.920
I would generate five thousand in sales over a period

535
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.480
of a year. That was on average. So I knew

536
00:33:29.799 --> 00:33:31.880
that if I gave away a two hundred dollar convection

537
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.319
of it and I got a five thousand, I knew

538
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:36.440
I was going to make on average a five thousand

539
00:33:36.440 --> 00:33:40.079
dollars sale. And so I did it, and I solved

540
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:42.799
their problem because a pizza polla doesn't want to put

541
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:45.160
cookies into the into the main oven. They want to

542
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:46.359
put pizza in the main oven.

543
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:47.119
Exactly.

544
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:51.440
That's just another example. But the but the scratch ticket

545
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:55.240
was a real well it's interesting one. It was really

546
00:33:55.279 --> 00:34:00.559
it was productive. So the next area you need to

547
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:06.559
look at for cash flow, it's gross profit margins being

548
00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:09.840
too low. Okay, So well I'm gonna talk about what

549
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:12.639
is a gross profit margin. So you gotta look at

550
00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:14.920
your gross profit margins to see how they compare to

551
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.440
industry averages and if you need that help, once again

552
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:22.559
we could provide help with industry averages. You have to

553
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:27.440
also understand your overhead base. But gross profit margin is sales.

554
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:33.440
Let's cost of good sold. Now, if you get twenty

555
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:37.000
accounting types, I don't care if there're CPAs or if

556
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:41.559
they're CFOs or even bookkeeper, whatever it is, doesn't matter.

557
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.719
If there's just twenty accounting types in a room, they

558
00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:50.960
will fight, scrap, scrape and argue what goes and cost

559
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:54.400
of good sold. But what I'm gonna do today is

560
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:57.400
just give you a basic overview of what goes to

561
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:01.320
cost of good sold. Okay, The cost of good sold

562
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:04.840
are your direct materials. So if you're producing something, or

563
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:08.760
if you're if you're in the trades, your material costs

564
00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.639
direct labor. This is the labor associated with building the product,

565
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:17.280
whether it is a manufacturer, or whether it is a

566
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:23.880
distributor putting product into a packaging, or it was someone

567
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:26.920
in the trades. Direct labor is in your cost of

568
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:31.559
good sould any subcontracted costs, So any cost associated with

569
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:35.880
putting that product together or delivering that product is all

570
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:40.320
included in cost of good sold. Break costs and other

571
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:44.719
direct costs specifically associated with the production or delivery of

572
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.760
that product of service that you provide. That's your cost

573
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:51.079
of goods and the sales. Let's cost a good sold

574
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:55.079
is called gross profit margin, okay. And you take the

575
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:57.719
gross profit margin divided by the sales and you have

576
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:01.400
your gross profit percent. And that is too low, and

577
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.320
it depends upon your industry what is too low. That's

578
00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:09.920
why I can't make a blanket statement here today. Cash

579
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:15.079
flow problems will ensue. So in addition to increasing your

580
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:19.880
selling prices, the aforementioned direct costs need to be constantly

581
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:24.039
reviewed and negotiated with suppliers. This is something business owners

582
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:29.039
very rarely do they feel beholden to their suppliers to

583
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.360
the point where they don't think there's any negotiation room.

584
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:36.840
And they're wrong because just like just like the business owners,

585
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:41.920
customers will come to them for price breaks, the business

586
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:47.719
owners of these of these various suppliers, they understand that

587
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:51.199
you're going to come back and look for price. Right.

588
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:54.679
That's such an astute point, Michael, so insightful. Yes, I mean,

589
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.440
just like you get pressure from clients and customers, you

590
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:02.559
should also put some of that same pressure suppliers and vendors.

591
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:06.519
It seems like that's your big takeaway, correct, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah,

592
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:07.360
that's really interesting.

593
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:11.239
And so the other critical element to pricing is to

594
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:14.840
know what your product or service costs. And I had

595
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.519
many clients not understand what their product or service costs.

596
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:23.400
And it turned out that I had clients when I

597
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:26.559
started with them, they were selling their product for below

598
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:30.039
cost and you could just imagine the cash flow problems

599
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.400
that was causing. I mean, you just got to know

600
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:34.679
what your product or service costs and under the profit

601
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.360
profitably price your product. And if you find that your

602
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:41.920
product of service costs too much and you can't be

603
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:44.960
competitive in the market. Then it's time to examine those

604
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:48.360
components of the product or service costs of your cost

605
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:49.920
of good soul to see what could be done to

606
00:37:49.960 --> 00:37:53.400
reduce it. And so let me explain this a little

607
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:58.119
bit more so. We have a profit formula that we

608
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:02.599
use called the five five to five profit formula, and

609
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:05.079
let me explain the simplicity of this formula and the

610
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:10.159
impact it could have on profit and cash flow. The

611
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:13.519
objective of the five to five to five profit formula

612
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:19.000
is to increase sales five percent, decrease cost of good

613
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:23.880
soul five percent, and decrease overhead five percent. That's it.

614
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:29.719
That's the formula once again, increase sales five percent, decrease

615
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:33.719
cost of good sole five percent, and decrease overhead five percent.

616
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:40.719
My clients are shot at how this small incremental change

617
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:45.960
in just three areas can have a profound and compound

618
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:49.360
effect on profit and cash flow. And let me give

619
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:54.159
you an example. So a company that's doing a million

620
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:57.599
dollars in sales at a forty percent gross profit margin,

621
00:38:58.920 --> 00:39:00.840
that's gross profit to buy it by sales. As I

622
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:04.519
talked about earlier, and a twenty percent net profit margin

623
00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:08.880
on the very bottom line. By increasing sales five percent,

624
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:13.119
reducing cost of good soul five percent, and reducing overhead

625
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:18.239
five percent, they will increase their bottom line forty five percent.

626
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:23.679
And I have some clients that are bonusing their management

627
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:25.519
team on that one formula.

628
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:27.559
Wow.

629
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:31.599
And we have strategies that next step CFO to impact

630
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:35.239
all three of those areas, and in a future show

631
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.440
will cover in more detail the five to five to

632
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:39.760
five profit formula.

633
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:41.119
Yeah.

634
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:44.039
I mean, Michael, you're already getting some plaudits on that,

635
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:48.920
so folks are really anticipating that episode where we break

636
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:50.239
the five five five down.

637
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:54.400
Yeah. And it's amazing how small incremental changes in those

638
00:39:54.639 --> 00:40:00.960
three areas can have such a compound effect on profit. Yeah.

639
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:03.440
By the way, yes, go ahead, Sorry, Michael.

640
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:05.079
Just you got a quick compliment that I just really

641
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:07.480
want to make sure we pronounce here on air. So

642
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:12.920
you connecting that to the management performance system?

643
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:13.280
Right?

644
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:15.559
So it seems like what you were saying was there's

645
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:17.480
a clienters who that you have where they've taken the

646
00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:20.719
five five five framework and they've used that as a

647
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.239
way to measure the performance of managers.

648
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:27.320
Right, Wow, Because they had such a compound effect. Even

649
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:30.719
if the managers are unsuccessful. Let's say and do four

650
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:34.440
four four, it's still a home run or three or

651
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:37.440
three four three. I mean it's still a home run.

652
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:41.559
And they're focused on the right things too, Yes, focused

653
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:42.519
on the right thing.

654
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:45.320
It's a good point, really really good point.

655
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:50.800
So the final area is paying bills too quickly. So

656
00:40:52.440 --> 00:40:55.000
business owners have a tendency because they like to get

657
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:58.679
their bills paid that they they don't have to have

658
00:40:58.719 --> 00:41:01.840
any bills hanging around them, and so they pay. You

659
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:04.280
got to pay your bills when they're due, not before.

660
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:08.679
Otherwise you gotta let the cash inflows catch up with

661
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:13.039
the outflows. By paying bills too quickly, you may be

662
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:16.360
losing an opportunity to be able to pay an important

663
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:21.159
bill that comes up unexpectedly. I had a client who

664
00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:25.760
is paying bills so rapidly that one month he couldn't

665
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:29.280
pay for an unexpected payroll tax that surprised him. Mm

666
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:33.360
it just it has an impact on cash flow when

667
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:37.800
you pay bills too quickly. Now, payroll taxes I must pays.

668
00:41:38.119 --> 00:41:39.639
So we had to borrow money from a line of

669
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:44.920
credit and incur unnecessary interest expense. Uh So no matter

670
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:49.280
how good your cash position is at any particular point

671
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:53.920
in time, pay your bills when due in a systematic manner.

672
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:57.280
And I know that expenses are coming. You know that,

673
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:00.639
you know there's must pays. I get that, But just

674
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:05.440
pay them when they're due. And every day your bookkeeper

675
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:10.119
should give you a reconciled bank balance. You know, with

676
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:13.000
with online banking today, that could be done very easily.

677
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:17.119
They can also reconcile the bank account daily, which eliminates surprises.

678
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:22.159
I have had so many times where taxing authorities have

679
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:28.159
doubled in tripled payments in error, and the business owner

680
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:31.880
doesn't know it, and three or four months later they

681
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:34.559
find out about it. It's just terrible. The bookkeeper should

682
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:38.760
be on that bank balance daily and you should know

683
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:42.039
what it is because if your call. This is one

684
00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:44.880
of the vital five numbers that every business owner should know,

685
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:49.800
along with sales, gross profit, gross profit percent, and net profit.

686
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:55.360
You have to know your bank balance now. The only

687
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:57.880
time you should pay bills quickly is when you get

688
00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:02.239
an early pay discount. That is absolutely acceptable. Pay to

689
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:04.719
pay early. And by the way, that's the reason why

690
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.039
you pay your bills on time. Because some vendors offer

691
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.880
a discount if you pay early. You want to use

692
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:14.119
that those dollars to pay for that. By the way,

693
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:18.599
sometimes it's called anticipation. When you have an opportunity, UH

694
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:22.119
to pay an invoice early or at least get a

695
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:24.960
one percent discount, you should you should always always take

696
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:32.800
your discounts. Remarkable, Tooky, I think we have a little time,

697
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:36.119
just a little time for just some bonus content that

698
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:39.599
I have. Great, Yeah, let me, let me, let me

699
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:43.760
just very quickly go through that. I want to talk

700
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:48.519
about employee theft or embezzlement, because yeah, yeah, most business

701
00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:51.239
owners never think it could happen to them. Oh, absolutely not.

702
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:55.239
It can't happen to them. Someone they trust needs money,

703
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:58.840
Because that that's the problem. Someone they trust needs money,

704
00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:01.960
and it's figured out a system for stealing and embezzling,

705
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:03.880
and it happens a lot more times than you think.

706
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:08.840
Did you know that eighty percent of all business theft

707
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.599
is employee theft? That is an accurate statistic, And the

708
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:17.239
key is implementing checks and balances and making sure one

709
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:21.360
person doesn't have much responsibility. I had a client who

710
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:24.440
really trusted their bookkeeper. This bookkeeper did everything she did

711
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:28.920
the entire bookkeeping job, made bank made bank deposits for

712
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:33.800
parre payroll, recorded sales, transaction into the accounts, payable printed

713
00:44:33.880 --> 00:44:39.079
checks for pared quotes. She had no watchdog, with no

714
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:42.760
checks and balances. She just bought a new house and

715
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:46.440
was having problems making payments on her mortgage with personal problem.

716
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:49.760
And it appears she overpaid for the house beyond her

717
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:53.559
family's means and didn't want to go into foreclosure. And

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she understood that she literally controlled the company's finances, and

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the temptation to steal was building m HM. And because

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the question in her mind of this basically honest person

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was do I jeopardize my house and my kid's livelihood

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or do I steal, she chose to steal. The owner

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had two dormant bank accounts. I had two companies, of

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which one was dormant. She began writing checks payroll checks

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right out of the dormant company. No one knew it,

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no one had audited it. Then she got lazy and

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started writing checks out of the main company bank account

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and the theft was discovered, but not after several thousand

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dollars were stolen. Really, unfortunately, it's unbelievable honest, people can

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get tempted because they may have some weak character or

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flaw in their character, and you know they they rationalized

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it by saving their kids' lives. Have a professional person

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like a CFO review of the books at least quarterly,

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and implement and implement internal control roles to prevent that.

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In a beztment, Yeah that's yeah, I'm sorry, but I

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got to set it back to you.

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Oh no, no worries, not no apologies needed, Michael. I

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mean you were just you know, in a zone of insight,

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to be honest. I took some really good notes here,

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and I would imagine a number of the business owners.

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Tuned in too, some really good notes.

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So there's still some questions that we're getting, some things

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that are still streaming. As Michael noted, I mean we

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could circle back. If you visit next step CFO dot net,

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you could reach out directly to Michael and really get

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some of those questions addressed. So, Michael, the next portion

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of our show here is our business Compliments segments. Right,

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So this is one of the most anticipated segments of

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the show. In addition to all the insights that we provide,

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there are four business owners that we will spotlight as

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part of today's Business Compliments segments. The first is Lawrence

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Kelly and by the way, these folks are coast to coast, right,

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so Lawrence is out in the East Coast. He's a

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CEO and founder of us answer dot Com. This is interesting,

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so they empower small business owners by providing a service

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that allows you to have almost like an answering machine

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on demand. Really interesting, particularly for business owners that are

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on the go. The next business owner that we want

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to spotlight is Michael Hoy. Michael is actually out in

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the Midwest. He helps to run Great Great Day Improvements.

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Let me say that again, Great Day Improvements, and his

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company was actually just ranked number three on Qualified Remodelers'

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Top five hundred Remodelers list for twenty twenty four. This

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is a quite prestigious recognition, So hats off to Michael

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and team. The third business owner that we want to

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spotlight Victoria Murray. She runs Inbox Virtual Associates and Michael,

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they did something really interesting, right, So they help speakers,

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authors and coaches manage the kind of operational side of

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the business. Right, So there's sort of like an online

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business manager agency. So really intriguing what a Victorian teamer

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are doing and the yeah yeah. The last business owner

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that we want to spotlight Michael alex Zenni. Alex is

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outa in the Midwest, runs Alpha Key digital to digital

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marketing company. What we're particularly inspired by was they actually

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help business owners define their target audience and then focus

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on that target audience with authentic conversations.

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Michael. This is something that you and I talk about

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quite often.

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How do you sort of build these authentic relationship with

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clients and customers. So all these business owners, in particular

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to just the point of reference here is they also

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provide it's some really good insight on our book interview

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again our book Powerful Business Strategies.

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So hats off to these business owners, Michael. I'm going

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to toss it back over to you.

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Thank you for comments. Yeah, if you'd like to participate

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in a book interview, you could go to once again,

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go to our website www dot next STEPCFO dot net,

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go to our contact page and put in book interview

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and send me a message. Be happy to interview you.

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And I promise you this you will learn business and

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financial strategies that your competition isn't doing. Brilliant and to

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go to get a copy of the book Powerful Business Strategies,

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simply go to our website www dot next STEPCFO dot net.

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It is totally complementary and until next Monday at noon

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Eastern time for Chucky Obia, I'm Michael Babarta andmember don't

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keep doing what your competition is doing.

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Thank you.

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You have been listening to Powerful Business Strategies finding out

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that everything you ever learned about growing your business is wrong.

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Tune in next week and every week at noon Eastern

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time on W four CY Radio with your host Michael

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Barbarita of NeXTSTEP CFO and moderator chugy Obio